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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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If they could get Monahan for $6million * 8, i'd be all over it. Then Sign Johnny to something similar. More likely, it'll be $7 but i'd still do that in a second for 8 yrs. |
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Anywhere from $7mil or less is a win for CGY. Get Mony signed long term and hopefully Gaudreau will follow with a comparative contract. |
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Zogg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.16.2005
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I'd do it in a heartbeat, the guy is going to be a beast (he's already proven he's going to be a future star). I'd love to have this kid on the Canucks |
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zipfel
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 04.24.2016
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That isn't Monahan's agent (Pat Morris) saying he could command 6 million/year, its just a random guess by David Pagnotta who wrote the article. Which is too bad, I got a little excited there hoping we can get a cap friendly long term deal for Beastahan!
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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.21.2013
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Spot on. When some people say "sign him to a bridge contract" they are ignoring the reality that great players like Monahan know that they deserve a long-term deal.
Like you said, Monahan is worth $6.5-$7.0 for 8 years. Easy! You guys got a couple of real beauties over there in Monahan and little Jonny Hockey.
With EDM, CGY, WPG, TOR and their youth - the cup is coming back to Canada one way or another. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Anywhere from $7mil or less is a win for CGY. Get Mony signed long term and hopefully Gaudreau will follow with a comparative contract. - TandA4Flames
I think Barkov's deal is going to be a very good comparable used. Which I think 7 years @ 43 mill is going to be awful close.
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Spot on. When some people say "sign him to a bridge contract" they are ignoring the reality that great players like Monahan know that they deserve a long-term deal.
Like you said, Monahan is worth $6.5-$7.0 for 8 years. Easy! You guys got a couple of real beauties over there in Monahan and little Jonny Hockey.
With EDM, CGY, WPG, TOR and their youth - the cup is coming back to Canada one way or another. - Njuice
As a Toronto fan, would you take Matthews or Laine? |
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jessehub
Calgary Flames |
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Location: BC Joined: 06.25.2010
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Id take Matthews just on the fact he is a centerman. A Center with this amount of skill is a no brainer to me. |
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While I am not sure on the number of years, I have said all along that Gaudreau will get 7.5 mil per year (just like Tarasenko) and Monahan will get 6.5 mil per year (up from Barkov's 5.9 per year).
If they can lock up both those for a total of 14 per year I think that is right where it needs to be. |
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jessehub
Calgary Flames |
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Location: BC Joined: 06.25.2010
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Id take Matthews just on the fact he is a centerman. A Center with this amount of skill is a no brainer to me. - jessehub
I hope Calgary gets Dubois somehow someway |
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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.21.2013
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As a Toronto fan, would you take Matthews or Laine? - FlamesFan1230
matthews all day. natural center. sick sick skills. We need a real 1st line center, we have wingers in the system but no elite center.
Laine's amazing too, but we gotta get that center. |
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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.21.2013
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While I am not sure on the number of years, I have said all along that Gaudreau will get 7.5 mil per year (just like Tarasenko) and Monahan will get 6.5 mil per year (up from Barkov's 5.9 per year).
If they can lock up both those for a total of 14 per year I think that is right where it needs to be. - dal_johnson
That seems fair and good for both sides. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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While I am not sure on the number of years, I have said all along that Gaudreau will get 7.5 mil per year (just like Tarasenko) and Monahan will get 6.5 mil per year (up from Barkov's 5.9 per year).
If they can lock up both those for a total of 14 per year I think that is right where it needs to be. - dal_johnson
The number of years means everything. Those extra years will be for UFA years in their prime. |
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DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 04.29.2016
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While I am not sure on the number of years, I have said all along that Gaudreau will get 7.5 mil per year (just like Tarasenko) and Monahan will get 6.5 mil per year (up from Barkov's 5.9 per year).
If they can lock up both those for a total of 14 per year I think that is right where it needs to be.
Are you implying Gaudreau is at the same level of Tarasenko or that salaries are rising much faster? |
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SRam19
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain Joined: 02.12.2015
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That isn't Monahan's agent (Pat Morris) saying he could command 6 million/year, its just a random guess by David Pagnotta who wrote the article. Which is too bad, I got a little excited there hoping we can get a cap friendly long term deal for Beastahan! - zipfel
What the hell is that? |
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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What the hell is that? - SRam19
Looooooouuuuuuuuu...
sort of like that... |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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[quote=DeflatedPucks]
If JH got the same deal as Tarasenko, nobody in Calgary would complain. Kind of different players but they produce similar. |
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Saskabush
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Bridge City, SK Joined: 10.29.2013
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Are you implying Gaudreau is at the same level of Tarasenko or that salaries are rising much faster?
Their numbers are very similar so far, Tarasenko would undoubtedly be the comparison Gaudreau uses in contract negotiations.
Tarasenko
2013-2014 STL 64 21 22 43 20
2014-2015 STL 77 37 36 73 27
2015-2016 STL 80 40 34 74 7
Gaudreau
2014-2015 80 24 40 64 11
2015-2016 79 30 48 78 4
I'll be pretty pumped if both he and Monahan sign identical 8x6.75 deals, Johnny's on record saying it would be nice to sign an identical deal to Money. |
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cpltanto
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.05.2013
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If signing a bridge deal, lets say close to what they did for Subban, how much more are you paying for the next contract?
What does that average out to given that you're getting 2 really cheap years
is it always that simple to assume a long term contract now is better?
I don't think in 2 years Monahan is getting a 9mill contract like Subban...unless he's winning Harts and Stanley Cups
2x 3mill
then 8 x 7.5mill? maybe 8mill?
so over 10 years thats 6.6mill or 7mill/year
I don't know...am I dreaming here?
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cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Greensburg, PA Joined: 07.02.2011
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Their numbers are very similar so far, Tarasenko would undoubtedly be the comparison Gaudreau uses in contract negotiations.
Tarasenko
2013-2014 STL 64 21 22 43 20
2014-2015 STL 77 37 36 73 27
2015-2016 STL 80 40 34 74 7
Gaudreau
2014-2015 80 24 40 64 11
2015-2016 79 30 48 78 4
I'll be pretty pumped if both he and Monahan sign identical 8x6.75 deals, Johnny's on record saying it would be nice to sign an identical deal to Money. - Saskabush
Very similar to the Crosby/Malkin situation in Pittsburgh. Malkin agreed to basically the same numbers as Sid twice now. Both also accepted a bit of a hometown discount. |
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cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Greensburg, PA Joined: 07.02.2011
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If signing a bridge deal, lets say close to what they did for Subban, how much more are you paying for the next contract?
What does that average out to given that you're getting 2 really cheap years
is it always that simple to assume a long term contract now is better?
I don't think in 2 years Monahan is getting a 9mill contract like Subban...unless he's winning Harts and Stanley Cups
2x 3mill
then 8 x 7.5mill? maybe 8mill?
so over 10 years thats 6.6mill or 7mill/year
I don't know...am I dreaming here? - cpltanto
I don't think either would agree to that 3 mil number for a bridge deal. If they did, they'd be asking for 9+ on the long term deals. Plus, as the cap rises, they may be worth 9+ at that time. 7mil @ 8 years would be awesome for both. |
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cpltanto
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.05.2013
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I don't think either would agree to that 3 mil number for a bridge deal. If they did, they'd be asking for 9+ on the long term deals. Plus, as the cap rises, they may be worth 9+ at that time. 7mil @ 8 years would be awesome for both. - cranktheradio
why is that bridge deal not agreeable?
SUbban's was under 3 and I believe he already had won a Norris
Marcus Johansen's was a 2 year 2mill per deal
I feel the bridge contract for Monahan would definitely be in the 3mill range
the debate would be how much is he worth in 2 years? Technically you shoudn't be offering more just because he had a bridge contract....his deal then would be what would be market value at that time
who knows, maybe contracts don't rise that much given the cap and revenue streams in a couple years
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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.21.2013
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lol, $3 million for Monahan. The drugs are good.
A team could sign him to an offer sheet more than that and only have to give up like 2nd round pick or something. |
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